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Nothing Ever Happened

Posted by Jed McKenna on February 6, 2011 at 9:25 PM

I only hinted at this in my previous writings. It's probably because I sensed how difficult it would be to communicate in any meaningful way. It's a step, if you will, towards abiding non-dual awareness, not to be confused with consciousness.


Consciousness requires that one be conscious of something. Awareness just is, it's a fact, beingness in Truth, and therefore needs no source or receiver.


Try to grasp the universe (of course is doesn't exist and cannot be grasped) and along with it the infinitude of it's size. Then imagine a infinitude of universes. Mix this with a sense of time that has existed forever and will continue to exist forever (another infinitude). Contemplate this 'package' and ask yourself, 'Has anything ever really happened?'. You must come up with your own answer, not mine. Maya hides the simplicity of Truth behind a door of confusion and the mind just loves all that confusion. So, my suggestions for you to comtemplate are as follows:


1.) Has anything ever happened?

2.) If so, what?

3.) How do you know that happened?


Your answers matter, not mine. Oops, I spilled some popcorn in the lobby.


Love Jed.



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Reply Darvish
11:11 PM on February 6, 2011 
There appears to exist something happening.
Truly, it is not filled with the "Sturm und Drang" which previously it was invested:
and there is an observational perspective, internally, which does not change.

Further, there is a felt sense of "no thing" from which apparently I arise,
and I suppose that is extensible to all things,
and I do believe that we are all "One Thing" and that "LoVe" connects us all.

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However,Jed:
contemplating your questions
gives rise to my frustration in discourse about non-duality:

if nothing ever happened, why are we even so much as talking?

The vehicle for dialogging itself,
this subroutine, or utility, which types and assembles words...
is totally invested in the relative world..

and the concepts you advance
have a different answer in silence.

since silence has nothing to say,
I will continue on the "low road",
and defend the fact that if this sentence makes sense,
then there must be something which has happened,
because the current word follows the previous one,
laid down in a former "now"...

Also proving relative "cause and effect", i may add.

The only way in which nothing has ever happened
is to consider the state of a very long rope,
very straight..

in which loops and whorls are shaken:
and which over time, returns to straightness.
the perturbations constitute deviations from the average mean "value",
but their sum, energywise, is zero, when all is said and done.

thus it could be for this universe (or universes galore):
it starts at zero and returns to zero,
and thus ?? nothing happens??..

==============

you posit a question:
I posit an answer..

is this nothing, and if it is , then why bother?

love,
d
Reply Further
12:03 PM on February 25, 2011 
1 - Nothing has ever happened.
2 - wha? - - in Vinnie Barbarino's voice.
3 - I don't know.

Thank you for this contemplation. Nothing really happens in dreams. The projection isn't real. The confusion is that we think it's real and therefore can't find the exit sign. Panicked because of being stuck in a dream that we don't know is even a dream.
Like...what are those spinning doors called. Geez I'm forgetting words for things. Where it goes round and round? Yeah, that. Only the exit isn't there. But it is. It's a contradiction.
I'm not good with words. From my experience it's emotions that keep us asleep. Kept me asleep? That's how I'm able to function in an emotional world. Bring out the tiger and get emotional. And then like wet socks, peel them off. When you let go of the attachment to 'feeling' something, to all emotions. The no-thing, you see!
Trying to grasp the universe is like in the physical, trying to hold your own heart in your hands. Yeah, that didn't make sense.
I appreciate those that can express the unexpressable into words.
Reply Raven
11:29 PM on February 25, 2011 
1. Yes, it appears to my senses that things have happened.
2. Forms change into other forms--a continual recycling of forms.
3. I know things change from my memories of "before" and "after."

Yet, when I look at my adult children, it is hard to believe I once gave birth to them. The memory does not seem 'real' in a sense. And sometimes it feels like even I myself came from nowhere. Like how did I get to this place and time of typing on this space these words? Like who am I and why am I? Yet, there are certain characterological traits that seem to hang with me throughout life.
Reply Raphael431
5:14 AM on March 2, 2011 
Nothing real has ever happened. Illusions never happen. Reality is always there reflecting light off itself creating the world we see, and what appears to be our lives. Reality is not a happening. Its a movement. A movement that has no definitive beginning or end. No destination. It stays where it is waving in and out of form. It is constantly that flux, and nothing is separate from it. Someone asked, "How is it that we are talking?". Are you talking? Or are you fluxing? If you are talking, is there a how to it? Where's the how? I don''t see it.

This response is not set in stone. Except for, Nothing real has ever happened, and illusions have never happened.
Reply Raven
2:55 PM on March 2, 2011 
All is flux.
--Heraclitus
Reply Shan
2:45 AM on March 29, 2011 
Doesn't there need to be two things (action and reaction) for something to happen?? Since there's only One no-thing appearing as many, I don't see how it would be possible for anything to ever happen... Not for reals anyhow.
Reply Dianne
4:38 PM on March 30, 2011 
Something keeps drawing me back here like a moth to a flame. I don't actually know definitively if anything has ever happened. When I am asleep, dreams seem real until I wake up. When I receive a little grace, suddenly none of my "problems" exist. Hell, even when I am just not thinking about a particular "problem" it doesn't exist until I think it into existence. Consequently my reality changes by the minute. My mind thinks it has to "figure" this duality enigma out...my mind is sadly mistaken...but still it keeps trying. All I can do is pat it on the head and say, "do what you have to do." When I get tired enough I relinquish control for a while, let in a little Truth and once again my mind says, "O.K., I got this now". I know my mind and my senses deceive me but it is those same sensing instruments that let me be that Truth....isn't it?

The only thing that ever really gets my attention and wakes me up is tragedy...I don't really want to wait for that again.

Maybe I'm just picking up popcorn crumbs in the lobby (I don't even know what I meant by that)....time to stop.
Reply Robert
6:56 PM on April 14, 2011 
no. and that's what makes the appearance of things happening all the more amazing. i am watching my backyard explode with colors that don't exist.
Reply notes
12:04 PM on May 1, 2011 
this video game we jumped in is not real we are not real so how could something happen to someone or thing if that thing is not real - what is THAT bored so it dreams up video games? and yet something strange...it sure feels real when i bang my foot - it sure feels real like heaven while walking through the forest - if its not real than why do we care to be loving or any number of things that seem to flow out naturally from us - why did this energy happen if we don't exist? why go through what seems like an awakening when there is nothing real? we are just characters playing the game of enlightenment no different than the characters playing the game of sports or business - how can it matter if this character does not exist? how can it matter to feel the drive for realization when that is what we are - when everyone dies their ego dies...so it makes one (one that doesnt exist) wonder why are we doing this while in the video game? and a strange thing too - why does the energy get so much more the presence the ... i don't know when the intention is to help others - why should it care if its not real - is this a subconscious belief that manifests out that way in this unreal world? - so there is something going on - does that want the game more realized...so that can have more expression in its dream... but it isn't real right? i ... this doesn't make sense nevermind - rofl - nothing ever happened... why is there natural kindness and love when we don't exist and we never happened? just the character playing out the part - Can a realized being know the answer to any question asked? if we know it is for sure not real and we all say forget it we are not playing anymore and all go off and refuse to take part in the game... we get hungry in the unreal game ... no need for a bad attitude that is not real - perspective ... might as well enjoy it before a blink of an eye and its over ... it is beautiful in the world that never happened... and the heart center is crazy with love - surely that is real (:
Reply phil
2:26 PM on May 8, 2011 
In our nightly dreams, objects appear, but they never become more than appearances appearing in and as the subject. In the absence of a discrete subject or object, the distinction becomes meaningless as the subject appears as the object and the object is the subject appearing. There's just the 'form' of the appearances, inseparable from the 'fomlessness' in which they appear. The notions of the space in which appearances appear, and the time in which they appear to move, are clearly more appearances. A happening requires an objective event, which isn't really possible when everything is the subject.

The nightly dream is just a dream within a dream.
Reply Jason King
6:11 PM on May 11, 2011 
I looked outside and then I learned to look within. I found it funny that "within" is not really a place either. I understood that finding this funny had me making a judgement on the whole so-called "thing" to begin with. So I went back to allowing. No anticipation, no finding, no learning... home
Reply Jeanne
11:07 AM on May 12, 2011 
Lovely!

Robert says...
no. and that's what makes the appearance of things happening all the more amazing. i am watching my backyard explode with colors that don't exist.
Reply Jeanne
11:08 AM on May 12, 2011 
This reaches my understanding...thanks

Dianne says...
Something keeps drawing me back here like a moth to a flame. I don't actually know definitively if anything has ever happened. When I am asleep, dreams seem real until I wake up. When I receive a little grace, suddenly none of my "problems" exist. Hell, even when I am just not thinking about a particular "problem" it doesn't exist until I think it into existence. Consequently my reality changes by the minute. My mind thinks it has to "figure" this duality enigma out...my mind is sadly mistaken...but still it keeps trying. All I can do is pat it on the head and say, "do what you have to do." When I get tired enough I relinquish control for a while, let in a little Truth and once again my mind says, "O.K., I got this now". I know my mind and my senses deceive me but it is those same sensing instruments that let me be that Truth....isn't it?

The only thing that ever really gets my attention and wakes me up is tragedy...I don't really want to wait for that again.

Maybe I'm just picking up popcorn crumbs in the lobby (I don't even know what I meant by that)....time to stop.
Reply Brant
12:55 AM on May 16, 2011 
What... are you guys kidding? What is this bullshit? Are you missing the point? Well that's for sure. Get real!!! Don't u see? You do not exist. You are in a dream. Love it or leave it. There is no you! The you that you see is a mirage. That is all. Earth to humanity... That is all!!!
Reply Brant
1:42 PM on May 17, 2011 
Same as the Dylan post This is really harsh. I had come back from a social gathering where I had one beer to many. Again my apologies. Something buried down there needs to be examined.
Reply rc
12:45 AM on May 18, 2011 
There's no way to be sure that anything has ever happened. One might say, "I remember". Well there is no person claiming to remember. Thoughts are simply arising without a thinker (this can be observed and known). If thoughts are arising, then there is no way to know that memories are real, or that anything has ever happened.

And Brant, I liked your post. No worries man.
Reply Pootie
3:01 PM on June 21, 2011 
Regarding event, time does not exist. Another ego expression? Has anything ever happened? NO!
Reply bill grey
9:25 AM on August 7, 2011 
If by "happened" we mean that something that wasn't became; or that cause/affect is truer than an affect being a reason for its cause, then i don't think(intuit, feel) that anything has ever "happened". Mythology expresses those things that can't be expressed so I'll just recall(probably inaccurately) Tolkien's creation mythology from the Silmarillion where Illuvator(sp?) writes the symphony of Creation and then brings into existence demi-urges to "play" the piece(the creation of the demi-urges being part of the symphony). So what we are witnessing through the lenses of our temporal(i.e. non-eternal) purview is the beginning, then build-up, then climax, then denouement, then epilogue then etc. of the "Symphony of Existence" that "exists" in its entirety already(Jed might could inform us here of the proper symphonic nomenclature from the research he did on this stuff in SIE... I think it was SIE... ).

BUT, mythologically, beyond-the-rationally speaking, it's all "there" in its entirety already... Due to our abysmally puny viewpoint, though, we see only a part of It at a "time"; which in turn creates the illusion of "time" because of the periods of duration required to re-focus on another portion of It; then another, then another, ad infinitum. But as we jettison more and more of the delimiting strictures imposed on our perception by culture, family, religion, science etc. etc. etc., we in effect "zoom out".. Then we see more of the picture at a glance until we zoom out all the way and "see" It in Its entirety; the demarcations between "beginning" , "middle" and "end" disappear... being untrue to begin with; which I guess is the penultimate step to becoming truth-realized?!

"... most guardians of society have a tendency in... asserting their authority not for, but against the search for disturbing truths... And one can readily understand, even share in some measure, their anxiety, since lies are what the world lives on, and those who can face the challenge of a truth and build their lives to accord are finally not many, but the very few."-Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By.
Reply IreneAngel
11:44 AM on September 8, 2011 
I don't know. I could have used many more words but why bother. I just don't know.
Reply starbug howser
6:03 PM on October 11, 2011 
I kinda feel like an imagined Julies, sadist, bully brother here reading this! (Julie from "damndest")

If I "saw" my imagined little sister Julie contemplate over this, I would probaly laugh at her and cruelly advise her to go out and get laid instead of writing about her useless new age stuff ;p

But since I read all your books, Im one of them "new agers" now by my own standards. I dont have the luxury of counterweighing all that Guru stuff, against your really good books on how to get "it" done.

Im stuck with not being able to even think about those 3 questions above, as they have no meaning to me. Who would care about questions like this?

I might be a huge moron, but Im a moron that contemplates Zen style questions like those.

Are those questions actually usefull for the purpose of waking up to some people?

lots of love

Howser

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